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THE WILLIAMS & ANDREWS FAMILIES OF NEWPORT, WALES AND
BRISTOL, ENGLAND
 

CONTENTS

Introduction

Acknowledgements & Disclaimer

Meaning Of The Names

Thomas WILLIAMS (1816-1874)

Alfred WILLIAMS (1853-1901)

Herbert Edgar WILLIAMS (1887-1952)

Richard ANDREWS (1787-1859)

Richard ANDREWS (1817-1899)

Edward Matticks ANDREWS (1819-1886)

John Southcott ANDREWS (1821-1877)

Introduction

One of the main things I have discovered as a result of researching my family history is that my roots are very much in England - indeed most of my ancestors originated from the Engish West Country. One exception to this however is the WILLIAMS family who came to Bristol in the mid-19th century from the other side of the River Severn - Newport in South Wales. And while the majority of my ancestors migrated to Bristol in the 1800s, I have discovered that the ANDREWS family were living in the city as far back as the 1780s. They were also a family where the same trade was passed down from father to son, with three generations working as saddlers.

The majority of the information on this webpage was compiled entirely by myself with the assistance of TONY POOLE, who has carried out research into the ANDREWS family at the Bristol Records Office on my behalf. I would however like to thank SUE GILLARD and Greg MONAGHAN for providing me with details about Lily Cordelia WILLIAMS and William Henry GILLARD; DARREN NOTT, CAROL SMITH and COLIN PURNELL for providing me with information about the family of Richard ANDREWS and Martha Chambers BALL; MERRIS WINE for providing details about Richard ANDREWS and Mary Ann SAUNDERS; SALLY DOUGLAS for helping me work out the identity of the second wife of John Southcott ANDREWS; SUSAN MOORE for providing information about Martha ANDREWS and Charles BATHE; PAUL BENYON and DAVID HEPPER for helping me understand Herbert WILLIAMS's Royal Navy service certificate, and JIM FISHER, RAY HENNESSEY and PATRICK WILLIAMS for providing me with extracts from various sources with regard to the derivation of the names "WILLIAMS" and "ANDREWS". I am also indebted to the members of the Bristol & Somerset Mailing List. Much of the information on this page has no primary source and while I believe that it is accurate, I cannot take responsibility for any errors or omissions. I will be updating this page regularly as new information comes to light.

The surnames WILLIAMS and ANDREWS are both patronymic, i.e. meaning "son of William" and "son of Andrew". According to P.H. REANEY and R.M. WILSON in "A Dictionary of English Surnames", the forename "William" derives from "Willihelm" or "Willelm", the Norman form of the French name "Guillaume". PATRICK HANKS & FLAVIA HODGES in "A Dictionary of Surnames" add that this in turn derives from the Old Germanic elements "wil" meaning "will" or "desire" and "helm" meaning "helmet" or "protection". REANEY & WILSON also note that after the Norman Conquest it became the most popular male Christian name in England until superceded by "John". According to HANKS & HODGES, the forename "Andrew" is of Greek origin and derives from "andreios" meaning "manly".

Thomas WILLIAMS was probably baptised in St Woolos, Newport, Wales on 14th October 1816, the son of Thomas and Margaret WILLIAMS. Family legend suggests that either Thomas or Margaret, or perhaps both of them, came from Ireland or had Irish ancestry, though there is no evidence for this at present. Thomas married Sarah CAVELL on 23rd July 1843 in Bassaleg, near Newport. Sarah was born in Bristol on 14th February 1825 and was the daughter of William CAVELL and Mary REES. Thomas and Sarah had at least ten children together - Mark, born 9th February 1846 in Graig, Monmouthshire; William, born c. 1848 in Bassaleg; Sarah Ann, born c. 1851 in Newport; Alfred, born 5th September 1853 in South Market Street, Newport; Sydney, born c. 1855 in Newport; Mary Jane, born c. 1858 in Newport; Isabella, born c. 1861 in Newport; Albert and Herbert, both born c. 1864 in Newport, and Cordelia, born c. 1867 in Newport. This is how the family appears in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses:

Mill Brook Cottages, St Woolos, Newport, Monmouthshire (1851)

Thomas WILLIAMS aged 30 Labourer born Newport, Monmouthshire
Sarah WILLIAMS wife 36 born Bristol, Gloucestershire
Mark WILLIAMS son 6 born Bassaleg, Monmouthshire
William WILLIAMS son 3 born Bassaleg, Monmouthshire

8 South Market Street, St Woolos, Newport, Monmouthshire (1861)

Thomas WILLIAMS aged 44 Labourer born St Woolos, Newport
Sarah WILLIAMS wife 34 born St Woolos, Newport
Sarah Ann WILLIAMS daughter 10 born St Woolos, Newport
Alfred WILLIAMS son 8 born St Woolos, Newport
Sydney WILLIAMS son 5 born St Woolos, Newport
Mary Jane WILLIAMS daughter 3 born St Woolos, Newport

43 South Market Street, Newport, Monmoutshire (1871)

Thomas WILLIAMS aged 54 Labourer born Newport
Sarah WILLIAMS wife 46 Dressmaker born Bassaleg, Newport
Mark WILLIAMS son 25 Labourer born Bassaleg, Newport
William WILLIAMS son 23 Railway Police born Bassaleg, Newport
Alfred WILLIAMS son 18 Carpenter born Newport
Isabella WILLIAMS daughter 10 Scholar born Newport
Herbert WILLIAMS son 7 Scholar born Newport
Albert WILLIAMS son 7 Scholar born Newport
Cordelia WILLIAMS daughter 5 Scholar born Newport

Thomas WILLIAMS died on 8th March 1874 at 43 South Market Street. The cause of death was recorded as emphysema, heart disease and dropsy. His widow Sarah continued to live in South Market Street, as shown here in the 1881 and 1891 censues:

43 South Market Street, St Woolos, Newport, Monmouthshire (1881)

Sarah WILLIAMS widow aged 54 Laundress born Bristol
Albert WILLIAMS son 17 Porter born  Newport
Herbert WILLIAMS son 17 Porter born Newport

43 South Market Street, St Woolos, Newport, Monmouthshire (1891)

Sarah WILLIAMS widow aged 65 Laundress born Bristol
Herbert WILLAMS son 27 Haulier born Newport

Sarah WILLIAMS (nee CAVELL) died in the 1890s.

Mark WILLIAMS (b. 1846) married Eliza EDWARDS in 1877. She was born in about 1853 in Coedkernew, Monmouthshire. Mark and Eliza had at least four children together - Thomas, born c. 1879 in Coedkernew; William, born c. 1881 in St. Brides, Monmouthshire; John Herbert, born c. 1883 in Newport, and Gladys Mary, born c. 1885 in Newport. This is how the family appears in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses:

Hawst Road Red House, St Bride, Wentllooge, Monmouth, Wales (1881)

Mark WILLIAMS aged 31 Platelayer born Bassaleg, Monmouth
Eliza WILLIAMS wife 28 born Coedkernew, Monmouth
Thomas WILLIAMS son 1 born Coedkernew, Monmouth
William WILLIAMS son 6 days born St Brides, Monmouth
Cordelia WILLIAMS sister 14 Nurse born St Woolos, Monmouth

44 South Market Street, St Woolos, Monmouth, Wales (1891)

Mark WILLIAMS aged 44 Haulier born Bassaleg, Monmouth
Eliza WILLIAMS wife 38 born Coedkernew, Monmouth
Thomas WILLIAMS son 12 Scholar born Coedkernew, Monmouth
William WILLIAMS son 10 Scholar born St Brides, Monmouth
Jno. Herbert WILLIAMS son 8 Scholar born St Woollos, Monmouth
Gladys Mary WILLIAMS daughter 6 born St Woollos, Monmouth

Griffin, Graig, Bassaleg, Monmouth, Wales (1901)

Mark WILLIAMS aged 56 Waggoner on Farm born Bassaleg, Monmouth
Eliza WILLIAMS wife 47 born Coedkernew, Monmouth
Thomas WILLIAMS son 21 Labourer In Steel Works born Coedkernew, Monmouth

Isabella WILLIAMS (b. 1861) married John EVANS in 1882. John was born in about 1857 in Newport. Isabella and John had at least seven children together - Gwenith Lilian, born c. 1883 in Newport; Alice May, born c. 1885 in Newport; Constance Laura, born c. 1887 in East Dean, Gloucestershire, died c. 1892; Herbert, born c. 1890 in East Dean; Bella, born c. 1892 in East Dean; Harry Llewellyn, born c. 1894 in East Dean, and Donald, born c. 1900 in East Dean. This is how the family appears in the 1891 and 1901 censuses:

Plump Hill, East Dean, Gloucestershire (1891)

John EVANS aged 34 Black Smith born Newport, Monmouthshire
Isabella EVANS wife 29 born Newport, Monmouthshire
Gwenith Lilian EVANS daughter 7 Scholar born Newport, Monmouthshire
Alice May EVANS daughter 6 Scholar born Newport, Monmouthshire
Constance Laura EVANS daughter 3 born East Dean, Gloucestershire
Herbert EVANS son 1 born East Dean, Gloucestershire

Laburnum Cottage, Plump Hill, East Dean, Gloucestershire (1901)

John EVANS aged 44 Colliery Blacksmith born Newport, Monmouthshire
Isabella EVANS wife 39 born Newport, Monmouthshire
Gwenith L. EVANS daughter 17 Pupil Teacher born Newport, Monmouthshire
Alice M. EVANS daughter 15 Dressmaker's Apprentice born Newport, Monmouthshire
Herbert EVANS son 11 born East Dean, Gloucestershire
Bella EVANS daughter 8 born East Dean, Gloucestershire
Harry L. EVANS son 6 born East Dean, Gloucestershire
Donald EVANS son 4 months born East Dean, Gloucestershire

Herbert WILLIAMS (b. 1864) married Clara Mary GROVES in 1892. Clara was born in about 1863 in Newport and was the daughter of William and Celia GROVES. Herbert and Clara had at least three children together, all born in Newport - Clara Florence, born c. 1893; Cecilia Cavill, born c. 1895, and William Sidney, born c. 1897. This is how the family appears in the 1901 census:

45 South Market Street, St Paul, Newport, Monmouthshire

Herbert WILLIAMS aged 37 Shopkeeper born Newport, Monmouthshire
Clara M. WILLIAMS wife 37 born Newport, Monmouthshire
Clara F. WILLIAMS daughter 7 born Newport, Monmouthshire
Cecilia C. WILLIAMS daughter 5 born Newport, Monmouthshire
William S. WILLIAMS son 3 born Newport, Monmouthshire
Cecilia GROVES widow mother-in-law 67 born Bridgwater, Somerset

Cordelia WILLIAMS (b. 1867) married Robert TUCKER in 1886. Robert was born in about 1865 in Newport. This is how Cordelia and Robert appear in the 1891 census:

16 Speedwell Street, St Woollos, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales

Robert TUCKER aged 26 Mariner born Newport, Monmouthshire
Cordelia TUCKER wife 24 born Newport, Monmouthshire

Cordelia TUCKER (nee WILLIAMS) appears to have died in 1892, aged only 25.

Alfred WILLIAMS was born on 5th September 1853 in South Market Street, Newport and was the son of Thomas WILLIAMS and Sarah CAVELL. Alfred moved to Bristol in the 1870s and married Mary Elizabeth ANDREWS on 25th December 1875 in St Philip & Jacob. Mary was born on 30th November 1857 at 14 Rosemary Street, St Paul, Bristol and was the daughter of Edward ANDREWS and Ann CAVELL. Mary's mother Ann was the younger sister of Alfred's mother Sarah, so Alfred and Mary were in fact first cousins. Alfred and Mary had at least eight children together, all born in Bristol - Elizabeth Annie Florence, born 27th July 1877 at 16 Hope Square, Bedminster; Sarah Alice Mary, born 11th December 1878 at 26 Alfred Street, St Paul; William Alfred, born 15th March 1881 at 10 Elton Street, Ashley; Edith Maud, born 27th April 1883 at 6 Elton Street, Ashley; Sidney, born c. 1884; Herbert Edgar, born 17th March 1887 at 5 James Street, St Philip & Jacob; Alfred Andrews, born 4th September 1889 at 6 Dermot Street, Ashley, and Lily Cordelia, born 13th April 1892 at 13 Southey Street, Ashley. This is how the family appears in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses:

10 Elton Street, St James & St Paul Out, Bristol (1881)

Alfred WILLIAMS aged 26 Carpenter born Newport, Monmouthshire
Mary WILLIAMS wife 23 born St Paul, Bristol
Elizabeth Florence WILLIAMS daughter 4 born Bedminster, Bristol
Sarah Alice WILLIAMS daughter 2 born St Paul, Bristol
Infant WILLIAMS son 1 month born St Paul, Bristol

6 Dermot Street, St Paul, Bristol (1891)

Alfred WILLIAMS aged 38 Carpenter born Newport, Monmouthshire
Mary E. WILLIAMS wife 32 born Bristol
Florence WILLIAMS daughter 13 Scholar born Bristol
Alice WILLIAMS daughter 12 Scholar born Bristol
William WILLIAMS son 10 Scholar born Bristol
Edith WILLIAMS daughter 7 Scholar born Bristol
Sydney WILLIAMS son aged 6  Scholarborn Bristol
Herbert WILLIAMS son aged 4 Scholar born Bristol
Alfred WILLIAMS son aged 1 Scholar born Bristol

12 Southey Street, St Werburgh, Bristol (1901)

Alfred WILLIAMS aged 48 Carpenter & Joiner born Newport, Monmouthshire
Mary WILLIAMS wife aged 43 Tailoress born Bristol
William WILLIAMS son 20 Carpenter & Joiner born Bristol
Maud WILLIAMS daughter 18 Box Maker born Bristol
Sydney WILLIAMS son 16 Pawn Broker's Clerk born Bristol
Herbert WILLIAMS son 14 born Bristol
Alfred WILLIAMS son 11 born Bristol
Lily WILLIAMS daughter 8 born Bristol

Alfred WILLIAMS died of phthsis on 12th November 1901 at 12 Southey Street, Ashley, Bristol. In 1911 his widow Mary was living in Tyne Street in the St Werburgh area of Bristol:

12 Tyne Street, Mina Road, Bristol

Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS widow aged 53 born St Paul, Bristol
Edith Maud WILLIAMS daughter 27 Boxmaking born St Paul, Bristol
Sidney WILLIAMS son 25 Docker born St Paul, Bristol
Alfred WILLIAMS son 21 Lithographic Printer born St Paul, Bristol
Lily WILLIAMS daughter 19 Boxmaking born St Philips, Bristol
Ada WILLIAMS daughter-in-law 27 Tailoress born Bristol
Evelyn WILLIAMS granddaughter 4 born St Werburgh, Bristol
Edwin POWELL visitor 28 Butler born St John, Bristol

Mary WILLIAMS (nee ANDREWS) outlived her husband by over 28 years, dying on 27th August 1930 at 12 Tyne Street.

Elizabeth Annie Florence WILLIAMS (b. 1877) married Thomas Cornelius WOODLAND on 4th December 1898 in St Werburgh, Bristol. Thomas was born in about 1876 and was the son of Cornelius Thomas WOODLAND and Hannah LEWIS. Elizabeth and Thomas had at least eight children together, all born in Bristol - Florence Gladys, born c. 1900; Alfred Cornelius, born 11th January 1901; May Lilian, born c. 1904; Ellen Louisa, born 8th June 1907; Sidney Thomas, born 16th February 1909; Edith Alice, born 22nd June 1911; Daisy Ivy, born 22nd May 1915, and Phyllis, born c. 1919. This is how the family appears in the 1901 and 1911 censuses:

3 Brooklyn Street, St Werburgh, Bristol (1901)

Thomas WOODLAND aged 24 Chaff Cutting born Bristol
Florence WOODLAND wife 23 born Bristol
Gladys WOODLAND daughter 1 born Bristol
Cornelius WOODLAND son 2 months born Bristol

33 Brooklyn Street, St Werburgh, Bristol (1911)

Thomas WOODLAND aged 35 Chaff Cutter born Bristol
Florence WOODLAND wife 34 In Corn Stores born Bristol
Gladys WOODLAND daughter 11 Scholar born Bristol
Alfred WOODLAND son 10 11 Scholar born Bristol
May WOODLAND daughter 6 11 Scholar born Bristol
Nellie WOODLAND daughter 3 born Bristol
Sidney WOODLAND son 2 born Bristol

Elizabeth WOODLAND (nee WILLIAMS) died in Bristol in 1970.

William Alfred WILLIAMS (b. 1881) married Charlotte Frost in 1903 in Bristol. Charlotte was born in St George, Gloucestershire in about 1881. William and Charlotte had at least six children together, all born in Bristol - William Alfred, born 2nd August 1904; Lilian Cordelia, born 27th April 1906; Ethel May, born 4th April 1908; Rosina Grace, born c. 1910; Sidney, born c. 1915, and Frank, born c. 1918. This is how the family appears in the 1911 census:

29 Penfield Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol

William Alfred WILLIAMS aged 30 Joiner born St Paul, Bristol
Charlotte WILLIAMS wife 30 born St George, Gloucestershire
William Alfred WILLIAMS son 6 Scholar born St Werburgh, Bristol
Lilian Cordelia WILLIAMS daughter 5 Scholar born St Werburgh, Bristol
Ethel May WILLIAMS daughter 3 born St Werburgh, Bristol
Rosina Grace WILLIAMS daughter 8 months botn St Werburgh, Bristol

Edith Maud WILLIAMS (b. 1883) married Edwin Daniel POWELL in 1911 in Bristol. Edwin was born at 2 Little John Street, Bristol on 25th December 1883 and was the son of Edwin POWELL and Mary RICH. Edwin was living with Edith and her mother at 12 Tyne Street in 1911 (see above census entry). Edith and Edwin had one child together - Edwin Leslie, born 5th June 1912 in Bristol.

Lily Cordelia WILLIAMS (b. 1892) married William Henry GILLARD on 15th November 1914 in St Werburgh, Bristol. William was born on 27th October 1891 in Kingsbury Episcopi, Somerset and was the daughter of William Thomas GILLARD and Jane MALE. Lily and William had three children together, all born in Bristol - Violet May, born 10th May 1915; Eileen Grace, born 13th September 1923, and William Thomas, born 16th January 1925. William Henry GILLARD died in Bristol on 1st December 1965 and Lily died in Bristol in 1968.

Herbert Edgar WILLIAMS was born on 17th March 1887 at 5 James Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol and was the youngest son of Alfred WILLIAMS and Mary Elizabeth ANDREWS. Herbert married Ada Emily NECK on 16th March 1909 in St Agnes, Bristol. Ada was born on 17th May 1884 at 11 Philadelphia Street, St Paul, Bristol and was the daughter of John Edward NECK and Ann PANES. Both Ada and Herbert were living at 10 Lake Street off Newfoundland Road in St Paul, Bristol at the time of their marriage.

Herbert and Ada had five children together, all born in Bristol - Eveline Ada, born 14th June 1907 at 34 Tyne Street, Mina Road, while her father was in the navy; Lilian Florence, born 9th April 1915 at 12 Tyne Street; Ethel Florence May, born 29th May 1921 at 29 Tyne Street; Dorothy Irene, born 17th April 1924 at 29 Tyne Street, and Audrey Joyce, born 11th September 1926 at 29 Tyne Street.

Herbert WILLIAMS served as a stoker in the Royal Navy. He was assigned to HMS Vivid, the Royal Naval Barracks at Devonport (now HMS Drake) on 9th February 1906, aged 18. His occupation at the time was given as 'sawyer', though this was later amended on his service certificate to 'carter'. He served as a Second Class Stoker aboard HMS Hogue, HMS Essex and HMS Aboukir. He was promoted to First Class Stoker on 18th July 1907 while aboard the Aboukir. He became Acting Leading Stoker while serving aboard HMS Medea on 23rd December 1910, and was confirmed as a Leading Stoker aboard HMS Indus in 1911 (the Indus was a base ship at Devonport). He also served as Leading Stoker aboard HMS Active. On 28th September 1911 Herbert passed educationally for the rank of Petty Officer, subsequently completing an 8-month mechanics training course. He was promoted to Petty Officer while aboard the Active on 10th February 1913, and held this rank aboard HMS Wolf (a tender to HMS Leander), HMS Iron Duke, HMS Sandhurst and HMS Tamarisk (a tender to HMS Gibraltar).

The 1911 census shows Herbert as Acting Leading Stoker aboard HMS Medea stationed in Malta Harbour. His wife Ada was living with her mother-in-law Mary Elizabeth WILLIAMS in Tyne Street, St Werburgh (see above census entry).

While assigned to the Iron Duke Herbert also appears to have served aboard HMS Oak, as this ship is recorded on Lilian's birth certificate. The Oak was attached to the Iron Duke, the flagship of the Grand Fleet under Admiral Sir John JELLICOE, throughout World War One. Herbert left the Iron Duke shortly before it led the Grand Fleet into battle at Jutland. HMS Tamarisk was based at Scapa Flow in the Orkney Islands and served as a convoy escort in the North Sea. Herbert passed for Chief Stoker on 15th April 1917 but never held this rank aboard ship. He passed for Engine Store Keeper on 15th February 1918. He was demobilised to shore on 13th February 1919, having been in the Navy for 13 years. On his service certificate his conduct was described as 'very good' on all the ships he served aboard, while his professional assessment was either 'very good' or 'superior' on every ship except the Iron Duke, where it was only 'satisfactory'.

After leaving the Navy, Herbert worked as a coal wagon loader for the London, Midland and Scottish Railway, working at a coal yard on Barrow Road in Barton Hill. He borrowed money from the landlord of the Full Moon in Trefield Road, where he would go for a drink, in order to buy 29 Tyne Street in St Werburgh. The subsquent repayments meant that the family remained poor. He had an allotment in Gadshill Road in Eastville and he also kept pigeons, canaries and budgerigars. Herbert died on 2nd August 1952 at 29 Tyne Street, St Werburgh, Bristol, aged only 65. His widow Ada Emily (nee NECK) died on 22nd May 1970 in Manor Park Hospital, Bristol.

Eveline Ada WILLIAMS (b. 1906) married Albert Joseph TOY, son of Edwin Henry TOY and Emily Lucy ROSE. She died on 10th June 1986. Lilian Florence WILLIAMS (b. 1915) sadly died on 9th March 1917at 29 Tyne Street aged just 23 months. Ethel Florence May WILLIAMS (b. 1921) married Arthur CHIPPETT on 11th April 1942 in Bristol. Dorothy Irene WILLIAMS (b. 1924) married Cyril Herbert Leslie LAVER, son of Cyril Albert Edward LAVER and Edith Nellie TOY, on 17th April 1943 in St Werburgh, Bristol. Audrey Joyce WILLIAMS (b. 1926) married Leslie NEWTON on 31st July 1948 in Bristol.

Cyril and Dorothy LAVER are my grandparents.

Broadmead, Bristol

Richard ANDREWS aged 55 Saddler Born in County
Mary ANDREWS aged 55 Born in County
Sarah ANDREWS aged 25 Born in County
John ANDREWS aged 15 Born in County
Martha ANDREWS aged 15 Born in County
Emma ANDREWS aged 15 Born in County

On 29th March 1845 the following advertisement appeared in the Bristol Mercury, perhaps suggesting that Richard's business was quite prosperous: "REMOVAL.  Richard Andrews begs to tender his sincere thanks to his Friends and the Public for the liberal patronage he has received, for upwards of Forty years, as SADDLER, COLLAR & HARNESS MAKER, and PATENT LEATHER-HOSE Manufacturer, and begs to inform them that he HAS REMOVED to no. 57, nearly opposite, 18 Broadmead. NB Repairing executed with neatness and despatch."

In 1851 Richard was still living and working in Broadmead:

22 Broadmead, St James, Bristol

Richard ANDREWS aged 65 Saddler born Bristol
Mary ANDREWS wife 65 born Exeter, Devon
Martha ANDREWS daughter 38 born St James, Bristol
Emma ANDREWS daughter 26 born St James, Bristol

Mary ANDREWS (nee SOUTHCOTT) died on 21st July 1859 at 22 Broadmead and her widowed husband Richard died later that same year on 29th October at the same address. Their deaths were both reported in the Bristol Mercury, again suggesting that they had some standing in the local community.

Sarah Ann ANDREWS (b. 1811) married William MORGAN in 1843. Sarah and William had at least one child together - Sarah Andrews MORGAN, born 27th May 1844 at 18 Broadmead, St James, Bristol.

13 Leek Lane, St Paul, Bristol

Martha BATHE widow aged 46 Needlewoman born St James, Bristol
Isabel BATHE daughter 10 Scholar born Plymouth
Charles T. BATHE son 9 born St Philips, Bristol
John ANDREWS nephew 15 Scholar born St Paul, Bristol

Richard ANDREWS was baptised on 12th October 1817 in St James, Bristol and was the son of Richard ANDREWS and Mary SOUTHCOTT. He married Martha Chambers BALL on 1st January 1839 in St John the Baptist, Bristol. Martha was born in Bristol in about 1817 and was the daughter of John BALL and Sarah CHAMBERS. Richard and Martha had at least three children together, all born in Bristol - Richard, born 6th July 1848 at 23 Broadmead, St James; Emma Martha, born 24th August 1850 at 24 Broadmead, and George Jones ANDREWS, baptised 14th January 1855 in St Philip & Jacob. Richard followed in his father's footsteps and became a saddler and harness maker, as seen here in the 1841, 1851, 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses:

Newfoundland Lane, St Paul, Bristol (1841)

Richard ANDREWS aged 25 Harness Maker Born in County
Martha ANDREWS aged 20 Born in County

Great George Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1851)

Richard ANDREWS aged 37 Harness Maker born Bristol
Martha ANDREWS wife 36 born Bristol
Richard ANDREWS son 2 born Bristol
Emily ANDREWS daughter 8 months born Bristol
Mary Ann BALL widow lodger 50 Hawker born Bristol
Emily BALL 15 Shoe Binder born London

16 Redcross Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1861)

Richard ANDREWS aged 44 Saddler born St Philips, Bristol
Martha ANDREWS wife 42 Keeps a Coal Shop born Westbury, Gloucestershire
Richard ANDREWS son 12 Costamonger born Westbury, Gloucestershire
Emma ANDREWS daughter 10 Scholar born Westbury, Gloucestershire
George ANDREWS son 6 Scholar born Westbury, Gloucestershire

3 Little Ann Road, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1871)

Richard ANDREWS aged 56 born Bristol
Martha ANDREWS wife 53 born Bristol

11 Callowhill Street, St Paul, Bristol (1881)

Richard ANDREWS aged 60 Labourer born Bristol
Martha ANDREWS wife 60 born Bristol

34 Callowhill Street, St Paul, Bristol (1891)

Richard ANDREWS widower aged 80 Saddler born St James, Bristol

Richard ANDREWS died on 15th January 1899 at 60 Victoria Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol.

Richard ANDREWS (b. 1848) married Mary Ann SAUNDERS on 7th December 1874 in St Philip & Jacob, Bristol. Mary was born in Bristol in about 1852 and was the daughter George SAUNDERS. Richard and Mary had at least nine children together, all born in Bristol - Mary Ann, born c. 1875; Caroline, born 18th February 1878 at 4 Union Court, Union Road, St Philip & Jacob, died c. 1879; Emma, born 25th June 1881; Henry Richard, born 18th May 1883; Sarah Ann, born 6th April 1885; George Chamber, born 16th May 1887; Caroline, born 4th April 1889; William, born 13th May 1891, and Charlotte, born c. 1893. This is how the family appears in the 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 censuses (in 1911 all of Richard and Mary Ann's surviving children are listed, even those who had left home):

Primrose Cottages, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1881)

Richard ANDREWS aged 33 Hawker born Bristol
Mary Ann ANDREWS wife 28 born Bristol
Mary Ann ANDREWS daughter 6 born Bristol

18 Little Ann Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1891)

Richard ANDREWS aged 43 Pedler born St Philips, Bristol
Mary A. ANDREWS wife 37 born St Philips, Bristol
Mary A. ANDREWS daughter 15 born St Paul, Bristol
Emily ANDREWS daughter 10 born St Philips, Bristol
Richard ANDREWS son 8 born St Paul, Bristol
Sarah Ann ANDREWS daughter 6 born St Philips, Bristol
George ANDREWS son 4 born St Jude, Bristol
Caroline ANDREWS daughter 2 born St Jude, Bristol

65 Great George Street, St Jude, Bristol (1901)

Richard ANDREWS aged 53 Hawker born Bristol
Mary A. ANDREWS wife 48 born Bristol
Emily ANDREWS daughter 19 Cotton Spinner born Bristol
Richard ANDREWS son 17 Labourer in Factory born Bristol
Sarah ANDREWS daughter 16 Factory Girl born Bristol
George ANDREWS son 13 Nail Maker born Bristol
William ANDREWS son 10 born Bristol
Charlotte ANDREWS daughter 7 born Bristol

10 Blackswarth Road, Redfield, Bristol (1911)

Richard ANDREWS aged 63 Hawker born St Philip & Jacob, Bristol
Mary Ann ANDREWS wife 58 born St Jude, Bristol
Caroline ANDREWS daughter 22 Bag Maker born St Jude, Bristol, England
Lottie ANDREWS daughter 18 Boot Machinist born St Symon, Bristol
William ANDREWS son 20 Bucket Maker at Iron Works born St Jude, Bristol
Richard ANDREWS son 28 Lamp Trimmer (Royal Marines) born St Paul, Bristol
George ANDREWS son 24 Iron Pickler at Iron Works born St Jude, Bristol
Crissie BROKENBROW daughter 26 Cigar Maker born St Philips Marsh, Bristol
Emily MOORE daughter 30 Boot Machinist born St Philips Marsh, Bristol
Mary Ann HOWE daughter 36 Boot Machinist born St Philips Marsh, Bristol

Mary Ann ANDREWS (nee SAUNDERS) died on 19th April 1924 at 10 Blackswarth Road, Redfield, Bristol.

Emma ANDREWS (b. 1850) married John KELLY on 9th January 1871 in St Philip & Jacob, Bristol. John was born in Wellington, Somerset in about 1852 and was the son of William KELLY and Grace HOLWAY. John and Emma had at least eleven children together, all born in Bristol - Emily Alice, born 20th October 1871 at 34 Victoria Terrace, St Philips; John Richard, born c. 1872; Alfred George, born c. 1875; William James, born c. 1876; Martha Chambers, born c. 1880; Robert, born c. 1881; Charlotte Ann, born c. 1883; Hannah, born 19th August 1885; Mary Lucy, born 6th May 1887 in Meriton Street, St Philips Marsh; Grace, born c. 1895, and George Flower, born c. 1898. This is how John and Emma appear in the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses:

11 Henry Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1871)

John KELLY aged 19 Labourer born Wellington, Somerset
Emily KELLY wife 20 Cotton Worker born Bristol

34 Victoria Terrace, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1881)

John KELLY aged 30 Labourer in Gas Works born Wellington, Somerset
Emma KELLY wife 32 born Bristol
Emily KELLY daughter 9 Scholar born Bristol
John KELLY son 7 Scholar born Bristol
Alfred KELLY son 5 Scholar born Bristol
William KELLY son 4 born Bristol
Martha KELLY daughter 1 born Bristol

61 Victoria Street, St Philip & Jacob, Bristol (1891)

John KELLY aged 38 Brick Labourer born Wellington, Somerset
Emma KELLY wife 41 born Bristol
Emma KELLY daughter 19 Pottery Hand born Bristol
John KELLY son 17 Brick Labourer born Bristol
Alfred KELLY son 15 Brick Labourer born Bristol
William KELLY son 14 Foundry Labourer born Bristol
Martha KELLY daughter 11 Scholar born Bristol
Robert KELLY son 8 Scholar born Bristol
Charlotte KELLY daughter 10 Scholar born Bristol
Hannah KELLY daughter 6 Scholar born Bristol
Mary KELLY daughter 4 Scholar born Bristol

In 1901 Emma KELLY was still living in Victoria Street:

61 Victoria Street, St Silas, Bristol

Emily KELLY aged 50 Grocer & Shop Keeper born Bristol
Alfred KELLY son 25 Greengrocer (Hawker) born Bristol
Charlotte KELLY daughter 17 Cigar Maker born Bristol
Hannah KELLY daughter 15 Tailoress born Bristol
Mary KELLY daughter 13 Cigar Maker born Bristol
Grace KELLY daughter 5 born Bristol
George KELLY son 3 born Bristol

Edward Matticks ANDREWS was baptised on 26th December 1819 in St James, Bristol and was the son of Richard ANDREWS and Mary SOUTHCOTT. Edward married Ann CAVELL on 24th November 1850 in St Philip & Jacob, Bristol. Ann was born in about 1833 in St Paul, Bristol and was the daughter of William CAVELL and Mary REES. Edward and Ann had at least six children together - Edward Thomas, baptised 27th March 1853 in St Philip & Jacob, Bristol, died later the same year; Sarah Ann, baptised 11th June 1854 in St Philip & Jacob; Mary Elizabeth, born 30th November 1857 at 14 Rosemary Street, St Paul, Bristol; Henrietta, baptised 12th September 1860 in St Philip & Jacob; William Edward, born 25th July 1862 in Bristol, and Florence Rebecca, born c. 1868 in Bristol. Edward also worked as a saddler and harness maker, as seen here in the 1851, 1861 and 1871 censuses: 

5 Barr Street, St Paul, Bristol (1851)

Edward ANDREWS aged 31 Harness Maker born St James, Bristol
Ann ANDREWS wife 18 born St Paul, Bristol

6 Picton Street, St James & St Paul, Bristol (1861)

Edward ANDREWS aged 41 Harness & Collar Maker born Bristol
Ann ANDREWS wife 27 born Bristol
Sarah Ann ANDREWS daughter 6 born Bristol
Mary Elizabeth ANDREWS daughter 3 born Bristol
Henrietta ANDREWS daughter 7 months born Black Wood, Monmouth

Ware's Gardens, St Paul, Bristol (1871)

Edward ANDREWS aged 52 Harness Maker born Bristol
Ann ANDREWS wife 37 Home Duties born Bristol
Sarah ANDREWS daughter 16 born Bristol
Mary E. ANDREWS daughter 13 Scholar born Bristol
William E. ANDREWS son 8 Scholar born Bristol
Florence R. ANDREWS daughter 2 born Bristol

Ann ANDREWS (nee CAVELL) died in the 1870s. In 1881 the widowed Edward was living with the DAVIS family in Elton Street, Bristol:

6 Elton Street, St James & St Paul Out, Bristol

George DAVIS aged 35 Upholsterer born Bristol
Mary A. DAVIS wife 30 born Bristol
Maud DAVIS daughter 2 born Bristol
Edward ANDREWS widower visitor 62 Saddler & Harness Maker born St James, Bristol

Edward ANDREWS died on 25th April 1886 at 1 Redfield Buildings, St George, Bristol.

Mary Elizabeth ANDREWS (b. 1857) married her first cousin Alfred WILLIAMS on 25th December 1875 in St Philip & Jacob, Bristol. Alfred was born on 5th September 1853 in South Market Street, Newport, Monmouthshire, Wales and was the son of Thomas WILLIAMS and Sarah CAVELL. See above for more information about Alfred and Mary.

William Edward ANDREWS (b. 1862) married Alice Amelia WYATT on 14th April 1884 in St George, Brandon Hill, Bristol. Alice was born on 9th October 1866 in Bristol and was the daughter of William WYATT and Christian BALL. William and Alice had at least eight children together, all born in Bristol - Christian Annie, born c. 1885; Thomas Albert, born c. 1888; Alice Amelia, born c. 1891; William, born c. 1893; Frank Percy, born c. 1894; Ernest Charles, born c. 1897; Arthur Colston, born c. 1903, and Alfred Reginald, born c. 1906. This is how the family appears in the 1901 and 1911 censuses:

9 College Street, St George, Brandon Hill, Bristol (1901)

William ANDREWS age 38 Saddler born St Philips, Bristol
Alice ANDREWS wife 35 born St Philips, Bristol
Chrissie ANDREWS daughter 15 Machinist Shirt born St Philips, Bristol
Thomas A. ANDREWS son 12 Scholar born St Philips, Bristol
Alice ANDREWS daughter 10 born St Philips, Bristol
William ANDREWS son 8 born St Philips, Bristol
Frank ANDREWS son 6 born St Philips, Bristol
Ernest ANDREWS son 4 born St Philips, Bristol

9a Lower College Street, Clifton, Bristol (1911)

William E. ANDREWS aged 48 Harness Maker born St Philips, Bristol
Alice A. ANDREWS wife 46 born St Augustine, Bristol
Christian A. ANDREWS daughter 25 Tobacco Trade Packer born St George, Bristol
Thomas A. ANDREWS son 22 General Labourer born St Philips, Bristol
Alice A. ANDREWS daughter 20 Tobacco Trade Packer born St Philips, Bristol
William E. ANDREWS son 18 Hair Dresser born St Philips, Bristol
Frank P. ANDREWS son 16 Printer born St Philips, Bristol
Ernest C. ANDREWS son 14 Chocolate Manufacturer born St Paul, Bristol
Arthur C. ANDREWS son 8 Scholar born St Augustine, Bristol
Alfred R. ANDREWS son 4 Scholar born St Augustine, Bristol
Charles J. MILLS servant 48 Coal Porter born St Philips, Bristol

Florence Rebecca ANDREWS (b. 1878) married George Albert COOK on 19th October 1885 in St Barnabas, Bristol. George was born in Bristol in about 1861 and was the son of James and Eliza COOK. Florence and George had at least five children together, all born in Bristol - Florence, born c. 1887; George, born c. 1889; Ada, born c. 1891; Henry, born c. 1896, and Alfred, born c. 1900. This is how the family appears in the 1891 and 1901 censuses:

6 King Square Avenue, St James, Bristol (1881)

George COOK aged 28 Baker born St James, Bristol
Florence COOK wife 26 Tailoress born St Paul, Bristol
Florence COOK daughter 3 born St James, Bristol
George A. COOK son 1 born St James, Bristol

42 Hill Street, St Clement, Bristol (1901)

George COOK aged 34 Railway Carman Foreman born Bristol
Florence COOK wife 32 Tailoress born Bristol
Mabel COOK daughter 14 Chocolate Worker born Bristol
George COOK son 11 born Bristol
Ada COOK daughter 10 born Bristol
Henry COOK son 6 born Bristol
Alfred COOK son 1 born Bristol

John Southcott ANDREWS was baptised on 30th June 18222 in St James, Bristol and was the son of Richard ANDREWS and Mary SOUTHCOTT. He married Emma HOLLISTER in 1842 in Bristol. Emma was born in about 1822 in Bristol. John and Emma had at least eight children together, all born in Bristol - Emma Eliza, born c. 1844; Samuel, born c. 1847; Mary, born c. 1848; Richard, born c. 1850; William, born c. 1852; James, born c. 1855; Mary, born c. 1856, and John Southcott, born c. 1857. John also became a saddler and harness maker as seen here in the 1851 census:

Barr Street, St Paul, Bristol (1851)

John ANDREWS aged 28 Harness Maker born St James, Bristol
Emma ANDREWS wife 28 born Gloucester
Edward ANDREWS brother 31 Harness Maker born Bristol
Emma ANDREWS daughter 5 born Bristol
Samuel ANDREWS son 4 born Bristol
Mary ANDREWS daughter 3 Bristol born Bristol
Richard ANDREWS son 1 born Bristol

On 14th July 1860 the Bristol Mercury reported on a case heard at the Magistrates' Court involving John's treatment of his son Samuel under the headline: "Inhuman Brutality To A Child":

"The sitting magistrates were on Monday occupied for a considerable time in investigating a very painful charge of inhuman conduct preferred against John Southgate Andrews, who carries on the trade of a harness maker in Broadmead, practised upon his son, a boy fourteen years of age, named Samuel Walter Andrews... The specific charge was for having placed a pair of handcuffs round the boy's legs, thereby causing laceration."

It seems that Samuel was spotted by a police constable on Park Street appearing to be walking lame and upon investigation it was found that he had a handcuff around one leg. In the witness box Samuel revealed that he had been wearing the handcuff for about three weeks without being taken off and that it was put on "because I did go out of the shop, and did not do my work right." He had left his father's house the previous Tuesday and had not been home since. When asked whether his father had ever ill-treated him before, Samuel replied: "Yes; he had been beaten with a ground-ash stick about a week before he ran away; had been beaten before now with a whip, and his father had tied him up with a piece of tarred twine by his two thumbs to a nail which he drove in the kitchen wall; he could only stand upon his toes, which were just resting upon the floor; he was kept a day in that position; that was when his father was at the shop in Barr's Lane, about five months ago; he was tied up in the morning till about five o'clock in the evening."

Upon further questioning Samuel "owned to have 'mooched' from two day schools to which he had been sent, and for which his father had punished him, but denied having ever betaen his mother, nor indeed his sister, except when she had struck him first; he also owned to having taken things from his father, but which his father had obtained possession of again; his father had said that if he worked steadily he would pay him all he earned, and put it into a bank for him; he had worked day and night, and all night at double-thick belts or machines bands; about a month ago he had run away from his father, and was away about three days before his father found him ... his father had wished him to be a good boy, but at the same time kept on beating him; his aunt and uncle Bathe had come to him and begged him to be a good boy, but his father had beat him at the same time; he had also struck him on the head with a hammer two or three times."

"Mr. Edlin addressed their Worships on the part of the accused, and allowed that the evidence of the boy, if true, showed that the father had in a measure exceeded the limits of parental authority, but, then, he had been given to understand that the boy, when at home, not only struck his mother, but injured his brothers and sister; in fact, he was the black sheep of the family. The accused had seven children, and the complainant was a boy who had probably been very kindly treated... There was no doubt [the accused] had exceeded the correction which a father ought to administer to a child, but, in dealing with the case, he urged them not to forget the character of the boy." Edlin added, "The father is a respectable tradesman in this city, and what punishment you inflict upon him will recoil upon his family."

Emma Andrews, Samuel's sister, was then called to the stand, stating "that the complainant was her brother; he was about fourteen years of age; he behaved very badly at home, and her father did not know what to do with him; he kicked her mother on one occasion. Her mother went to catch him to prevent his running out again, when he kicked her in the side; he had run away for three weeks at a time, and her father and mother had been out day and night looking for him; her father had been too kind to him; he had never punished or beat him in any way; it was her brother's wish to have a chain on; she believed the handcuff was put on Thursday week; it was put on when he came home last; he never had it on before, nor it wouldn't have been put on then if it hadn't been his wish; he said, 'Father, do put the chain on my leg to keep me in'; he had knocked witness down several times; her father had paid him for the work he did; he never complained of any pain, but would run about and play with the chain on his leg, and make fun of it; she had never seen her father treat him badly; he was always too good to him; he was too good to them all; her brother was never tied by the thumbs, not had a strap put round his middle; her father never did anything to him but talk to him; her father had never struck her nor any of the family."

"Mr. Brice said there was no doubt that he was an exceedingly bad boy, as bad as he could possibly be, but the punishment which had been stated, very far transcended the power of a father. He should advise the magistrates to allow the recorder and a jury to determine whether it was a proper chastisement for a boy... The accused was then committed to the next quarter session, bail being accepted, himself in £50, and two sureties in £25."

On 3rd November 1860 the Mercury reported on the subsequent Quarter Session hearing under the headline "Alleged Cruelty By A Father":

"John Southcott Andrews, 38, saddler, surrendered having been out on bail, to answer an indictment, charging him with having assaulted and beaten Samuel Walter Andrews, his son."

The Recorder asked Samuel: "Did you tell Mr. Hibbins that what you had said about your father before the magistrates was not true?" To which Samuel replied, "Yes, sir." The Recorded asked, "Why did you tell him that?" Samuel did not answer, and the Recorded then asked, "Did you say before the magistrates what was not true?" Samuel replied, "Yes, some of it." Mr. Edlin then said, "After that, Mr. Recorder, do you think the case should proceed?" The Recorder responded: "The boy says one thing one minute, and another another. He says that he told Mr. Hibbins that a portion of what he told the magistrates was not true, and now he says he did say what was not true. Do the jury wish the case to go on?" The jury responded that they could not depend on the boy's evidence, and John ANDREWS was discharged.

In 1861 John and Emma were living in Broadmead, but Samuel was no longer living with them, and his whereabouts at the time is not known:

22 Broadmead, St James, Bristol (1861)

John Southcott ANDREWS aged 39 Saddler & Harness Maker born Bristol
Emma ANDREWS wife 39 born Bristol
Emma ANDREWS daughter 16 born Bristol
Richard ANDREWS son 10 Scholar born Bristol
William ANDREWs son 9 Scholar born Bristol
James ANDREWS son 6 Schlor born Bristol
Mary ANDREWS daughter 5 Scholar born Bristol
John ANDREWS son 3 Scholar born Bristol

Emma ANDREWS (nee HOLLISTER) died on 5th February 1863. It seems as though John may have subsequently remarried, although his second marriage has not yet been traced. His new partner was Hester Elizabeth HIGGINS nee BUTTON. Hester was born in Kilmersdon, Somerset in about 1828 and was the daughter of James BUTTON and Rhoda TURNER and the widow of Thomas HIGGINS. John and Hester had at least four children together - Elizabeth Button, born c. 1864 in Bristol; Isaac Button, born c. 1866, died c. 1869; Eliza Ann, born c. 1868 in Nailsea, Somerset, and Isaac, born 5th December 1870 in Congresbury. This is how the family appears in the 1871 census:

Blagdon, Somerset

John ANDREWS aged 49 Master Harness Maker born Bristol
Elizabeth ANDREWS wife 42 born Coleford, Somerset
Elizabeth ANDREWS daughter 6 born Bristol
Eliza Ann ANDREWS daughter 2 born Nailsea, Somerset
Isaac ANDREWS son 3 months born Congresbury, Somerset
Walter HIGGINS stepson 16 born Pensford, Somerset

John Southcott ANDREWS died in about 1877. By 1891 his widow Hester Elizabeth had moved to Wales and was living in Ebbw Vale with two of her children:

15 Mount Pleasant Road, Ebbw Vale, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire

Elizabeth ANDREWS widow 61 born Kilmersdon, Somerset
Frank HIGGINS son 31 Harness Maker born Pensford, Somerset
Eliza Ann ANDREWS daughter 22 Milliner born Nailsea, Somerset
Charles MEATON boarder 29 Platelayer born Hereford
William OVERTON boarder 24 Primitive Methodist Minister born Worthen, Shropshire

In 1901 Hester was living with her daughter and son-in-law Pontypridd (see census transcript below).

Richard ANDREWS (b. 1850) married Margaret KIELEY in 1869. She was born in London in about 1847. Richard and Margaret had at least one child together - Mary Ann, born c. 1870 in Bristol. This is how the family appears in 1871:

Richard ANDREWS aged 23 Saddler born Bristol
Margaret ANDREWS wife 24 Seamstress born London
Mary Ann ANDREWS daughter 11 months born Bristol

Margaret ANDREWS (nee KIELEY) died in about 1875 and Richard subsequently married Mary Jane LONG on 25th December 1875 in Holy Trinity, Bristol. Mary was born in Stapleton, Bristol in about 1855 and was the daughter of George LONG. Richard and Mary had at least six children together, all born in Bristol - Sarah Jane, born c. 1882; Emma, born c. 1883; Edith Ellen, born c. 1886; Richard William, born c. 1888; Florence Eliza, born c. 1891, and Maud Rosina, born c. 1895. This is how the family appears in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 censuses:

Bloy Street, St George, Bristol (1881)

Richard ANDREWS aged 30 Saddler born St James, Bristol
Mary Jane ANDREWS wife 25 Laundress born Gloucestershire
Mary Ann ANDREWS daughter 11 Scholar born St Paul, Bristol

26 Gadds Hill Road, Stapleton, Bristol (1891)

Richard ANDREWS aged 41 Saddler born Bristol
Mary Jane ANDREWS wife 34 born Stapleton, Gloucestershire
Sarah Jane ANDREWS daughter 9 Scholar born Bristol
Emma ANDREWS daughter 7 Scholar born Bristol
Edith ANDREWS daughter 5 Scholar born Bristol
Richard ANDREWS son 2 born Bristol
Florence ANDREWS daughter 13 days born Bristol

24 Heron Road, All Hallows, Easton, Bristol (1901)

Richard ANDREWS aged 50 Saddler born Bristol
Mary J. ANDREWS wife 44 born Bristol
Sarah J. ANDREWS daughter 19 Chocolate Factory Hand born Bristol
Edith E. ANDREWS daughter 15 Chocolate Factory Hand born Bristol
Richard W. ANDREWS son 12 born Bristol
Florence E. ANDREWS daughter 10 born Bristol
Maud R. ANDREWS daughter 5 born Bristol

John Southcott ANDREWS (b. 1857) married Ellen MARRIOTT in London in 1877. Ellen was born in Northampton in about 1860. John and Emma had at least four children together, all born in London - Ada, born c. 1880 in Shoreditch; John, born c. 1882 in Shoreditch; Rose, born c. 1884 in Hackney, and Ellen, born c. 1887 in Haggerstone. This is how the family appears in the 1891 census:

Hammerfield, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire

John S. ANDREWS aged 34 Machinist in Boot Factory born Bristol
Ellen ANDREWS wife 31 born Northampton
Ada E. ANDREWS daughter 11 Scholar born Shoreditch, London
John F. ANDREWS son 9 Scholar born Shoreditch, London
Rose M. ANDREWS daughter 7 Scholar born Hackney, London
Ellen ANDREWS daughter 4 Scholar born Haggerstone, London

John Southcott ANDREWS died in about 1907.

Eliza Ann ANDREWS (b. 1868) married Frank STOCKER in 1896. Frank was born in West Hatch, Somerset in about 1870. Eliza and Frank had at least four children together - Bessie, born c. 1897 in Bristol; Reginald, born c. 1898 in Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales; Lily, born c. 1902, and Frank, born c. 1905. This is how the family appears in the 1901 census:

14 Berw Road, St Katherine, Pontypridd, Glamorgan

Frank STOCKER aged 30 Cabman's Groom born West Hatch, Somerset
Annie STOCKER wife 31 born Nailsea, Somerset
Bessie STOCKER daughter 4 born Bristol
Reginald STOCKER son 2 born Pontypridd, Glamorgan
Elizabeth ANDREWS mother-in-law 72 born Coleford, Somerset

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